MALCOLM AMONG FRIENDS | Daily Telegraph

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Tim, once again we see that greenies kill people. According to reports, a faulty fridge caused the massive apartment block fire in the UK. How could a faulty fridge cause a large fire? Flammable refrigerant gas. Why would anyone use flammable refrigerant gas when non flammable alternatives are available? Global warming.

“Refrigerants used in refrigeration and air conditioning systems in Australia have usually been non-flammable, non-toxic, synthetic greenhouse gases (SGGs) with a high global warming potential (GWP). These include chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), hydrochlorofluorocarbons (HCFCs) and hydrofluorocarbons (HFCs). Due to the concern over the impact of SGGs in the atmosphere, the use of alternative refrigerants with low GWP is increasing. These include natural alternatives to HFCs such as ammonia, carbon dioxide and hydrocarbons.”

https://www.worksafe.qld.gov.au/injury-prevention-safety/hazardous-chemicals/specific-hazardous-chemicals/flammable-refrigerants

Ok, so how could the entire building catch fire then? Flammable cladding. Why would anyone put flammable cladding on the outside of a high – rise building? Energy efficiency!

http://www.smh.com.au/national/what-is-cladding-and-why-it-is-used-on-buildings-20170615-gwrir6.html

Global warming alarmism kills.

A

Are Britains fridges safe?

“While many in the industry preferred R134a, environmental groups and Greenpeace in particular, championed hydrocarbons as the natural alternative as they are non-ozone-depleting and non-global warming. Despite industry concerns as to its flammability, isobutane has become the standard domestic refrigerator gas and has become popular in certain plug-in commercial refrigerators. Only last month Waitrose announced that it was to use hydrocarbons in the refrigeration systems of all its new stores and refurbs.

Greenpeace developed Greenfreeze technology in 1992 utilising isobutane and propane ”

http://www.acr-news.com/are-our-fridges-safe

 

Gil1 day ago

@A Money can always be found for a green project, in the Grenfell Tower case 8½ million pounds to reclad the building with insulating material. Any money available for an upgrade to tackle safety concerns of the residents? Don’t be silly.

That the recladding put flammable material behind a hard skin, thereby creating a series of fire-spreading chimneys around the building, wouldn’t have occurred to the greenies, engrossed as they are in their death struggle with the planet’s greatest threat, Global Warming.

They are the world’s shallowest thinkers and a danger to everyone.

Snappy

@Gil @A http://abc7ny.com/news/investigators-wood-high-rise-condo-design-contest-winner-illegal-under-current-law/1240291/

Just in case you think its a good idea to build wooden high-rises:

Quote:

Back in the 1800s, a series of horrific wood structure fires destroyed wide swaths of Lower Manhattan. That led to a law that still exists today banning wood structures in Manhattan more than six stories tall.

“We’re actually bringing back something that they learned 150 years ago was a smart idea,” John Jay Fire Science associate professor Glenn Corbett said.

Corbett, an editor of Fire Engineering Magazine, says a 10-story heavy timber condo building would be a big step backward in fire safety.

“They can spread fire incredibly fast,” he said. “And of course, they create these gigantic fire situations which are uncontrollable for a lot of fire companies.”

A warehouse fire in Connecticut showed how uncontrollable heavy timber wood fires can be once they get going. At another warehouse in Connecticut, it took fire fighters 12 hours to bring that heavy timber fire under control.

Source: MALCOLM AMONG FRIENDS | Daily Telegraph

So …. It is not falling fridges which are the problem after all.

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