Hugh Morgan, Norm Gallagher, Max Ogden and Rob Elliot are all important in understanding Gillard’s role in the AWU Scandal – Michael Smith News

And here’s the transcript of a brief part of Rob Elliot’s oral examination at the TURC.

Q.   Could you come to paragraph 55 of the document,

20       please.  Just to put it in context, you are describing here

21       in this paragraph your dealings with other persons in or

22       associated with the labour movement.  You are describing in

23       particular some dealings that you had with Ms Gillard?

24       A.   Yes.

25

26       Q.   You say in 55:

27

28            Ms Gillard was supportive of a

29            ‘reform group’ in which I was involved in

30            the HSU in the late 1980s.

31

32       Who were the members of that reform group?

33       A.   Well, a reform group I think, generally speaking in

34       all unions, is pretty ill-defined.  It would at least,

35       I think, include the candidates in an election, but

36       probably more broadly their cadre of supporters.

37

38       Q.   Did that include Ms Darveniza?

39       A.   Yes, she was a lead candidate.

40

41       Q.   This is in the late ’80s?

42       A.   ’89 I think was the election.

43

44       Q.   ’89.  You say:

45

46            Ms Gillard and Slater & Gordon became legal

47            advisers to the … No. 2 Branch …

1

2       That was at about that time, was it?

3       A.   Some time later.  I’m not quite sure when.

4

5       Q.  You say.

6

7            … Ms Gillard continued to give, not just

8            strictly legal advice, but also offered

9            more general political counsel.

10

11       You mean to yourself and others?

12       A.   Yes, sir.

13

14       Q.   You knew her personally, I take it?

15       A.   I’ve known Julia since university days, yes.

16

17       Q.   You say:

18

19            It was generally understood that success

20            for Ms Gillard’s allies in union elections

21            was of benefit to Ms Gillard’s political

22            career and, in turn, Ms Gillard’s

23            advancement would benefit those unions (and

24            the union movement generally).

25

26       Just looking at that sentence a bit more carefully, you

27       say, “It was generally understood”, you mean among those

28       with whom you were associating in the HSU?

29       A.   That’s generally understood in the labour movement.

30       There are factions with the factual leaders and grandees.

31       I was a member of a faction which included Ms Gillard.  It

32       was widely accepted.  I mean, amongst a great number of

33       people, Ms Gillard was a rising star.  As far as I  can

34       remember, I was also of the belief that Ms Gillard would

35       one day be Prime Minister.  There are some people who just

36       strike you as being of that ilk.

37

38       Q.   You say:

        39

        40            It was generally understood that success

        41            for Ms Gillard’s allies in union elections

        42            was of benefit to Ms Gillard’s political

        43            career.

        44

  45       You mean because persons who had received the support of

        46       Ms Gillard in union elections would be able, in turn, to

        47       throw their support behind Ms Gillard in her political

         1       career?

         2       A.   That’s the way it works in the Labor Party,

         3       Mr Stoljar.

         4

         5       Q.   You say it would also work the other way, Ms Gillard’s

         6       advancement would benefit those unions?

         7       A.   I think that’s correct.  That’s also how it works in

         8       the Labor Party and I suspect every other political party.

         9

        10       Q.   Two way street?

        11       A.   Two way street.

EXTRACTS END

Source: Hugh Morgan, Norm Gallagher, Max Ogden and Rob Elliot are all important in understanding Gillard’s role in the AWU Scandal – Michael Smith News

Has Julia Gillard changed since being pm?

Advertisements

About Virtual Quilter

I am a quilter who designs many more quilts than I will ever make, and I am sharing one quilt design every day in Virtual Quilter. I also share my completed projects in Stuff-Ups, and Christmas decorations in Christmas Everyday of the Year.
This entry was posted in Other stuff. Bookmark the permalink.